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Do you have the right Customer Success TEam?

9/15/2020

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Do you have the right Customer Success team for your size company?
 
Often times, I am asked “We have a problem with x. Can you please help us fix it?”. But when I start to dig deeper, there is a larger underlying problem – the Customer Success team has not evolved as the company has grown.
 
The CS team for a company with $1M in revenue and 200 customers needs to be different from the CS team for a company with $10M and 2,500 customers which needs to be different from the team in place for a company with $50M and 6,000 customers.
 
So, it is critical to ensure that you have the right CS team for your company size. It’s also critical to acknowledge that the team will change as your company grows.
 
There are 2 broad dimensions I consider when assessing a company’s existing CS team:

1) People
2)Operations
 
PEOPLE
On the People front, I’m looking at things like organizational structure, degree of specialization within the team, compensation structures and managerial oversight. An example of this is below
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Too often, companies that are in the “Medium-Size” company stage still expect their CS team to act as a catch-all for anything customer-related.


OPERATIONS
On the Operations front, I’m looking at things like the existence (or non-existence) of a Customer Lifecycle Management Plan, the Customer Segmentation approach, the Account Escalation Protocols and the Product Feedback loop. Similar to above, it is not expected that a company with a handful of customers will have all (or any of these). But by the time a company is doing $5M in revenue, many of these things should be in place.
 
If you’d like to learn more about what your company should have in place today, I’d be happy to discuss. Book some time with me at https://calendly.com/nagreeconsulting/assessment

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How to assign accounts

7/27/2020

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Whether you are inbound sales, outbound sales or customer success, account assignment is one of the most difficult and contentious activities that you will undertake. You are constantly trying to balance a host of variables like account load, quota attainment capacity, industry expertise, personal interest. And your finely balanced assignment ‘breaks’ every time a new customer joins or leaves, or more dramatically, when an employee joins or leaves.
 
So, what’s the answer? Unfortunately, there’s no simple solution. My colleague and I tried once to create software that would figure out automatically and dynamically which accounts should go where. All we ended up doing was massively breaking things, resulting in above-average churn for a couple of months (and annoying a lot of our CSMs in the process).
 
Given the complexity, there are at least 3 different approaches you can take:
 
1) Round-robin based upon account load.
In this system, you look at the account loads or numbers of prospects in everyone’s book of business. And you simply round robin them new customers so everyone has similar numbers of accounts/prospects (adjusting for differing quotas). This can be captured in either number of accounts or the dollar value (if it’s a prospect, you can estimate their projected spend). While simple, there are shortcomings in only using a single variable to assign accounts.

2) Best accounts to the best performers.
Imagine if a prospect from Google inbounds. Under the system above, that prospect would simply go to the next rep in the queue. But what happens if that rep is new or a poor performer. Do you really want that lead in their hands, or would you want it to go to one of your better, more experienced reps? To avoid this, use a model where the best accounts go to the best reps. It’s a pretty obvious system, but can be very difficult to implement.

3) Segmentation.
In this system, you segment your reps into different territories/industries/customer sizes/etc. and assign accounts within each of these segments. This certainly builds expertise within your reps, but it can be challenging if you don’t have enough (or have too many) accounts in a specific segment. Moving reps can be hard, so you might find yourself under-capacity in one segment and over-capacity in another segment.
 
The short answer is that there is no simple, optimal system. Instead, it is important to choose a system but understand all the pros and cons of the system. Minimize the cons, and then explain to your reps why you have chosen a specific system and what you are doing to try and make it as fair as possible. Honesty and transparency will go a long way.
 
And if anyone has the perfect system, please let me know :)

We have 20+ years of experiencing in helping companies accelerate their sales funnel. If you’d like to learn how we can help your company grow from <$10M to $50M+ please contact us at azim@nagreeconsulting.com.
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RE-IGNITE YOUR REVENUE ENGINE - PART 3

7/16/2020

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Over the last few weeks, we have been looking at how to re-ignite your revenue engine. We looked at how to use demand generation to re-fill your pipeline. Then we looked at how your sales team approaches those leads, and gets more of them to close. 
This week, we are looking at your existing customers. Because, for most SaaS businesses, 80% of revenue comes from existing customers. So unless you are looking after your customers, your revenue growth will stall. 
It’s likely that your customers have had their budgets frozen or cut. But there are 3 things you can do to ensure that dollars still come your way: 
1. Call them about THEIR business, not yours
Do not call your customer and ask them about the renewal. Call them and ask them how the company is doing. Ask them about how they are doing. Ask them how their goals and objectives have changed, and how you can support them. Use genuine empathy to build a relationship with your customer, and show them that you care about more than just the renewal. 

2. Ask them about their current pain points
It’s more than likely that your customer’s world has changed fundamentally over the last 6 months. The things they were struggling with before are probably not the things they are struggling with now. If you can understand what their current pain points are, you might uncover and opportunities to sell a solution to them that wasn’t applicable 6 months ago. And remember, this is not selling because you need to make quota. This is selling because you are genuinely wanting to help your customer. 

3. Be flexible
Now is not the time to stick to the “rules”. You notice they are sharing licenses? Let it slide (for the moment). They want to add a feature but for a price lower than the ‘approved’ discount level. Give it to them (but let them know that pricing will return to normal at next renewal). They need a feature just for the next 3 months? Turn in on for them – if the feature adds value, they will gladly pay for it when the time comes. They need flexible payment terms? Talk to your finance - I can almost guarantee that they will relax the payment term rules because they will want the renewal just as much as you do

Keeping customers will make sure that you keep their revenue. But more importantly, it will also open up opportunities for future expansion.​

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RE-IGNITE YOUR REVENUE ENGINE - PART 2

7/9/2020

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Two weeks ago, we talked with @David Cardiel about how to fill your pipeline. But that’s just the beginning. This week, I spoke with @Kevin McKweon about how to get the sales team closing the leads generated by the marketing team, as well as creating and closing their own leads.

“I’m interested, but not right now” is a phrase that your sales team are probably hearing over and over again. But the reality is that the customer’s need still exist. So you just need to figure out how to make them realize that your product will solve a real problem for them, and create real value.

So here are our top 3 suggestions on how to get customers to stop ghosting you and start buying:

  1. Listen - really listen - to what your prospects are saying. Are they saying no? Or are they saying no for right now. If the former, let them go. If the latter, nurture them over the coming weeks and months
  2. Be flexible - work with your customers to find a solution that works for them right now (products, features, payment terms etc) even if you would not have offered that solution before Covid
  3. Keep hustling - if your team closed 1 out of 10 prospects before Covid, they are probably only to close 1 out of 20. But that’s still a close. So tell your team not to give up. 
Follow these suggestions and you’ll start to see deal flow increase. Let’s be realistic – you won’t get back to pre-Covid19 levels overnight. But you’ll definitely see customers start buying from you again.

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Re-IGNITE YOUR DEMAND GEN ENGINE - Part 1

6/25/2020

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For B2B companies, an average close rate is 1-3%. 
So to get 1 deal closed, you need somewhere between 30 and 100 opportunities. 
Some will come from your sales team, but the vast majority should come from demand gen efforts. 
Many companies scaled back demand gen - now’s the time to step it back up. According to @David Cardiel, Demand Gen Marketer extraordinaire, here are the 3 things that every revenue leader should be doing right now:
  1. Turn the conversations into action. It’s time to cash in and deliver on the goodwill and thought leadership built up at the start of COVID-19. At the start we were empathetic, remained unopportunistic and pushed past the discomfort and kept the channels of communication open. Demand marketers that attempted to use the crisis to generate more sales or market share risked doing irreparable damage to their brand. As we push forward into months four and five there has been a shift back to more traditional demand gen campaign tactics such as email, paid, social and virtual events. In contrast to volume-based lead gen, this is a time for more comprehensive opportunity identification, better opportunity and overall account management.  
  2. Be solution-oriented, not just product oriented. Throughout the pandemic, demand marketers have needed to understand that there is no ideal product but only a solution that fits a customer’s needs and desired outcome. A more common tactic is to define product appeal based on how they are differentiated from competitors. This is a tactic that works for some but opportunity comes in how their solution can be differentiated for customers. 
  3. ​Strengthen the Sales and Marketing Alliance - At the end of the day, marketing still needs to drive the demand that supports sales and revenue targets for their organizations. Campaign-enabling quota carrying teams is paramount to the success of any demand gen efforts being deployed. What marketing is pushing, why they are pushing it followed by attribution reporting is sure to align both teams. Consider focusing ABM programs on accounts that are currently showing signs of being in-market, either via anonymous first-party web engagement or third-party intent data. In addition, there is a natural tendency to focus on lower-cost engagement channels in an effort to save money, yet solely cutting channels for the sake of cutting will dramatically impact performance.

By following these simple steps, you'll re-ignite the Demand Gen engine and start to see the lead pipeline start to fill-up again. 

We have 20+ years of experiencing in helping companies re-think their sales funnel. If you’d like to learn how we can help your company grow from <$10M to $50M+ please contact us at azim@nagreeconsulting.com.

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PICK up the phone to accelerate sales

5/27/2020

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When companies ask me how to accelerate sales or improve retention, I tell them a story. I needed to purchase a sign for my wife’s French pastry shop last week. I spoke with the front desk clerk who said that it would be around $90. A few days later, I got the final quote from the sales person - $265. And with that, I was out. The sales person lost the deal. But to their credit, they called me (instead of emailing me again). Within 5 minutes, the misunderstanding was resolved and the deal was closed.

Pre-Corona, reps gravitated towards email and/or Slack and/or text. Post-Corona, video conferencing is all the rage. But the reality is that savvy sales people will use a combination of all 3 mediums to move a prospect through the funnel to close.
So when do you use the phone vs email? There’s a couple of questions you should ask yourself:

1. What’s the point of the communication?
If it’s a quick clarification, email is probably best because its asynchronous nature allows your prospect to answer on their (busy) schedule. And if the response is truly quick, it will be easy for your prospect to quickly type a reply during or between meetings, while commuting or while standing in line for their favorite burrito.

If the point of the communication is to discuss a more complicated issue, or to understand more about the prospects BANT or (like in my example above) resolve a miscommunication, the phone is probably your best bet because it allows for the back-and-forth dialogue which is so critical to get you and your prospect aligned.

2. Who is your audience?
Really try and think about your prospect. Are they in meetings back-to-back, or do they travel a lot? If so, it’s unlikely that you’ll be able to get them at their desk and a call to their cell might be a little intrusive. In this situation, an email might be best. Or perhaps they have told you that they receive 100’s of emails a day. If that’s the case, they might welcome a phone call as a reprieve from their inbox assault.

Also remember that while video meetings are the hot trend right now, your prospect might not appreciate being forced to be on camera. I would recommend sticking with the phone instead of a video call, especially if you are in the early stages of building a relationship with the prospect.

3. Do you need a record of the conversation?
When you are in the deal, there are certain aspects that you want to record – for example the specific requirements that the prospect is providing. I have seen too many deals fall apart pre-sale or post-sale when there is disagreement about what was included in the package. Even if they were discussed on the phone, confirming those details via email is absolutely critical.
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But if the conversation is more general – going over the capabilities of the product, the initial gathering of the requirements, doing more discovery around budget – those can be done effectively via phone. Of course, it would be best practice to have those phone calls recorded.
 
The summary of all this is to remember to use all the channels that are available to you. A deal will not progress or close through phone or email alone. We live in an age where there are multiple communication channels available to us, and we would be foolish to not use all of them.
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If only I had software tool X...

5/13/2020

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In my role of helping executives and investors grow <$10M SaaS companies by building a scaleable sales and retention engine, one of the most common questions I am asked is “Should we deploy software platform X”.  Who better to help me answer this question than Vinay Bhagat, CEO of Trust Radius, which is the industry leader in software reviews.

He and I collaborated together and came up with the following set of steps you can use to help identify the right software solution: 
Step 1: Ask Yourself - Will a Tool Fix Your Problem?
Too often, people fall into the trap of thinking that software will solve their problem. But software only accelerates and automates the current processes. If the current process is broken, or non-existent, software will exacerbate the problem, not solve it. The first step should be to understand whether your current processes are correct, or if you need to focus on getting those right first.
 
Step 2: Gather Requirements
Assuming you are ready for a tool, the most important step is requirements gathering. That’s just a fancy way of saying “what do you need the tool to do”. Talk to a broad range of stakeholders in your organization, from individual contributors who will be the main users to managers who will likely be managing the individual contributors to executives who will expect to see tangible ROI from the investment. Capturing the requirements can be as simple as a list in a shared spreadsheet or it could be more comprehensive (a lot will depend upon the cost and the impact to the organization of deploying the software). Vinay also recommends using review platforms, even at this stage, to both identify potential solutions and read about the various use cases. Doing so will enlighten you about what’s possible and extend your thinking about the requirements that you can codify in-house today. 


Step 3: Research what’s available.
Informal networks (peers, friends) are a great source
, but so are trusted 3rd party sites like TrustRadius. You’ll quickly learn whether the pros and cons of the software, as well as come across other potential solutions that you were not even aware of. 

Vinay adds “Use filters to find products for your specific use case, and to find reviews from people similar to you or see how the products perform on dimensions like support  and ROI realized”

Step 4: Take Some Demos
This is one of Vinay’s favorites because it means that you get to be customer (instead of the other way around!). He suggests documenting all the questions you have based upon your requirements document, and your research. 

Once you have this, reach out to your short-list of vendors for a demonstration of the product. Ideally, you’ll do a 30 minute high level demo just to confirm that it can do what you want it to do. And then ideally, a follow up demo to see exactly how it will handle your specific requirements. 
Don’t be afraid to push the vendor to have them show you exactly what you what, and ask tough questions. Don’t get distracted by them showing things they have but you don’t necessarily want.

Step 5: Get the Right Resources
Make sure that you have the internal resources and management alignment to make the deployment successful. “Peers are a great resource,” says Vinay. “Ask them about their real-life experience - what worked, what didn’t and what would they do differently if they had the opportunity to implement again”. 


Step 6: Negotiate, buy and deploy
The right tool, deployed well and used effectively can dramatically improve efficiency and effectiveness of your demand gen, sales and customer success organizations. It may not be ultimate solution to all your challenges but it can definitely accelerate your growth.
 We have 20+ years of experiencing in helping companies use software and process improvements to achieve exponential growth. If you’d like to learn how we can help your company grow from <$10M to $50M+ please contact us at azim@nagreeconsulting.com.

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HOW BUILDING A BIKE REMINDED OF THE IMPORTANCE OF SCALING

5/4/2020

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How Building a Bike Reminded Me of The Importance of Scaling
 
Last week, my daughter turned 4 and I found myself, late at night, trying to build her new birthday bike. The task would have been made easier if the instructions were decent, but unfortunately, they were written poorly so I ended up just trying to figure it out myself. What should have been one hour project ended up consuming 3 hours of my time, as well as most of my patience and sanity (why would part A connect to part F – doesn’t it make sense for A to connect to B?!?)
 
As I struggled with the joining the “G-Connector Bracket” to the “U-Slide” but making sure that the “Circle Washer” was in the right place, I realized how this same struggle applies to the workplace. When someone is faced with doing something for the first time, we oftentimes do not set them up for success – instead, we let them either figure it out on their own or rely upon the dissemination of tribal knowledge (i.e. they ask one of their peers who gives them verbal guidance on how to do that particular task).
 
What struck me was how inefficient and ineffective this method is. It’s inefficient because so much time is wasted, either from the employee who wastes time trying to reinvent the wheel from scratch or from the knowledgeable employee that must train over and over again. And it’s ineffective, because there are the best practices within your organization, and it seems silly for someone to not use it.
 
So how do you solve for this? Process and documentation. First, you need to document some of your best practices, especially for situations that come up commonly. For example, have your Sales Team list out the 5 most common objections they get, and then prepare best practice responses for each of those. Or look at your most common Customer Support tickets and and make sure that you have macros (in Zendesk) or templates (other ticketing systems) created that can be easily used.
 
The next is process, and there are 3 parts to this. Firstly, make sure there is a good process to identify when a standard document should be created. Maybe it’s when the team tells you, or you see, a lot of similar situations occurring. Or maybe you put 1 person in charge of creating a new template each week.
 
The second is to make sure that everyone understands how to find the template. Don’t get caught up in trying to find the perfect technology (Google Docs, Sharepoint, macros or 3rd part apps like Guru) – ultimately the technology doesn’t matter. What does matter is that it is easy to use, and everyone knows how to use it.
 
The last is to make sure that people are actually using the templates, and if not, find out why not. Typically, you’ll hear the response that either they didn’t know a template existed, or they didn’t know how to find it, or it was just easier to write up the response themselves rather than search for the template. Those are all problems that can be solved. For example, incorporate a template review in your weekly stand-ups to reinforce awareness of the templates and make it part of the team’s workflow.
 
With the right documentation and process in place, you’ll find the team performing better, more consistently and more efficiently. And when that occurs, congrats because you have started on the journey of scaling.
 
We have 20+ years of experiencing in helping companies scale . If you would like to discuss how we can help you achieve cost-efficient and effective growth, please contact us at azim@nagreeconsulting.com.
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WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THIS IS ALL OVER?

4/22/2020

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Many of us are spending our time thinking about (and writing about) how to get through the current Coronavirus-driven situation. For those who have had to endure headcount reductions, your energy and focus is probably on just getting through the day-to-day workload.
 
But it’s important to think about what will happen when the current crisis is over, especially as it relates to hiring. So, when management is telling you to cut back on headcount, how do you make the case to start hiring again?
 
The answer is simple – data.
 
When you are asking for additional headcount, make sure that you have the data to back up your request. It is likely that every department will be requesting headcount, and the executive team will not approve everyone’s request. Those with a solid business case backed up with data will win, compared to those who have generic requests based upon intuition. More simply said:
Make sure you bring a gun to the knife fight
What data should you bring? The simplest, most compelling data is comparing the work that needs to be done versus the current capacity of the team:
  • In Sales, it can be a statement of overall revenue targets compared with the quota capacity of the current team. If the revenue target is $1M in new sales each month, but the quota capacity of the team is $800K, it is easy to justify an additional head to close the gap.
  • For Demand Gen, talk in terms of what the team can generate in new leads. If the current team can produce 100 leads/mth through SEM, events, content marketing etc. but the company requires 150 leads/mth, it’s simple math to show that more resources are required.
  • In Customer Success and Customer Support, quantify the amount of work each customer generates (either through support tickets, or the number of inbound requests or the number of touches required to secure a renewal) and compare that with the capacity of the team. If there are 100 tickets per day, but the team’s capacity is only 60 tickets per day, there is an obvious case for additional headcount.
 
I’ve prepared a simple template you can use to build your business case (based upon Sales but easily manipulated for Demand Gen or Customer Support). You can make the analysis as simple or as complicated as you feel is necessary to make your point. (If you’d like help with your analysis, or need help building a model, please contact me at azim@nagreeconsulting.com and I’d be happy to help free of charge).
 
For many people, the data may not exist which makes it challenging. But look at the data you do have, even if it is qualitative or anecdotal or directional. If you put pen to paper, you might surprise yourself about how much data you have, even if it is not being formally captured within a system or platform.
 
Even if you think that your executive team will be lukewarm on additional headcount, all might not be lost. Instead of showcasing what will happen with additional headcount, show them what might happen without the headcount e.g. by how much will revenue targets be missed, what will happen to support SLAs, what will happen to customer satisfaction and retention rates. Giving them this information will help them make an informed decision, as well as help set their expectations regarding you and your team’s performance in the upcoming month or quarter.
 
In the words of many, #wewillgetthroughthis. So, while you stay focused on the present, give some thought to what the future might hold because NOW is the right time to lay the foundations for that future.
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Customer Satisfaction - not as important as you think

4/15/2020

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Intuition tells us that Customer Satisfaction (CSAT) is important. But when it comes to retaining and growing your customers, it may not be as important as you think. What is important is usage – if your customer is using your product, they are more likely to renew, even if they are not totally happy. And vice-versa. If they are not getting value from your product, no amount of great customer service will result in a renewal.
 
Many of you have probably experienced this situation – “I’m really happy with you, and the customer service I get from your company. But I don’t see the value in the product so I’m not going to renew”. This happens more often than we would like and demonstrates that customer satisfaction is not the only thing that customers care about.
 
With that said, keeping customers happy is still important because (a) it does increase the likelihood that they will renew and (b) they can act as brand advocates for you with other actual or potential customers.
 
The most commonly used measure of CSAT is Net Promoter Score (NPS). Introduced by Bain & Company in 2011, it asks customers 1 single question:
 
“How likely are you to recommend our product/service to a colleague”
 
For more information on NPS, how to calculate and how to benchmark, please visit https://www.bain.com/insights/introducing-the-net-promoter-system-loyalty-insights/
 
And there are lots of tools available to help deploy NPS – a quick search on google reveals at least half a dozen options, and that’s just on the first page of the search results.
 
The bigger question is what do you do about it. The answer is easy – communicate with your customer. If they are a Promoter, maybe they can turn into a customer reference, or a case study or a brand advocate. If they are Passive, find out the 2-3 simple things that need to be addressed to turn them into Promoters. And if they are a Detractor, someone needs to immediately reach out to the customer to find out what’s going on. In any of these instances, a simple phone call and/or email can be extremely powerful.
 
Again, a happy customer is not guaranteed to renew. Likewise, an unhappy customer is not guaranteed to not renew. But understanding a customer’s state of satisfaction is a critical component to make sure you’re maximizing the chance that the customer will stick with you.
 
We have 20+ years of experiencing in implementing, and acting upon, Customer Satisfaction programs. If you would like help in implementing a Customer Satisfaction program, please contact us at azim@nagreeconsulting.com.
 
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    Azim Nagree is an ex-Bain consultant with 20+ years in leading strategy, growth and operations transformations. 
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    Mr Nagree has worked with all company types ranging from large Fortune 50 companies down to Series A start-up ventures. He holds a Masters of Business Administration (1st Class Honors) from the Wharton School of Business. 
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